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The way people discuss character motivation has changed a lot since the 90s

I was in a book club meeting last night where we talked about a new novel. Someone said a character acted a certain way because the plot needed it. When I was growing up, we always looked at what the character wanted and why. Now it seems like people skip that part and jump straight to judging if a character is good or bad. That makes the debates shallow. Has anyone else noticed this shift in how we talk about books?
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mason_ward
...and that's why I think some of those old discussions were better. My dad used to tell me about his college lit classes in the early 90s where they'd spend a whole session just on one character's motivation in a short story. Now it feels like everyone's trying to figure out if the character is a good person or a bad person before they even finish the first chapter. I remember reading The Great Gatsby in high school and we spent a whole class just debating why Gatsby throws those parties. Nobody was calling him a hero or a villain. We were just trying to figure out what he wanted. That was more interesting than the hot takes you see online now where people just slap labels on characters.
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kai_west
kai_west3h agoMost Upvoted
and it's not just books either, I see the same thing in how people talk about movies and TV too. My buddy was telling me about his coworkers trying to figure out if Walter White was a good guy or a bad guy and they totally missed the point of why he started cooking in the first place. It's like everyone's become a moral referee instead of actually looking at what drives people to do things. When you look at real life, nobody wakes up thinking "I'm going to be the villain today." Everyone thinks they're the hero of their own story, and that messiness is what makes characters feel real instead of just cardboard cutouts moving a plot along.
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